AN UNEDITED CONVERSATION BETWEEN FRAUD FLOYD WEBB AND 5TH DAN OF THE BDFS JOHNF CREEDEN III

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John "Bob Dias" Creeden IIII am not naming anyone. Did it happen or not? Did you wuss out on another fight and kiss ass like you did with Dux? Since you asking for sources I guess it did happen, "Danteist."Creeden, you coward, are you threatening my son under the name Bob Dias? That is reason enough for me to come to Fall River and kick your ass just for the thought you silly-ass, you wimp. But I don't need to, you have enough problems and I believe this is why people always want to kick your stupid ass and watch you back down. Bob Rebello will wipe the floor with your ass and you know it. He is right there, if you were going to do anything you would have already. Bob Dias to=lonehitman@yahoo.com is already in the Judge Wolf's files, you nitwit. is identified as YOU you, nitwit.You got no reach Creeden, you continue to be delusional. Where my son is he is well looked after and has no reason to fear the likes of you. Don't ever let me see you in person dude, ever. I will take an ass whipping just to smash your punk face for that last one, for even imagining you could casually threaten my son's life, even in jest. You really don't know me Creeden. You have a nice day and stick to playing with little boys and running away. You have never played a man's game anyway. You keep digging that hole Creeden, you are making your own life hell. I wash my hands of you and your illness. Karma will catch up with you, and Karma is really a bitch.Floyd Webb
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM, bob dias


lonehitman@yahoo.com> wrote:


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By the way, I have it on good authority from my FAll River source that Creeden got caught up in another altercation last week and almost got his ass beat and he backed down and got all ass kissy. Why does this keep happening to this guy?

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Name who and when did this happen Floyd. And name your source in Fall River. And how about those filing dates Floyd. You know Floyd that your bullshit is running out..

Lets see if your son get out of France alive, well thats what my sources are telling me Floyd. I know about Joe Rebello and Michael Antunes their beatings are coming really soon.

Your stupid you dont know the origins of the dragons your so stupid and ignorant and my movie is way better than yours.

DAVID KILI A NO SHOW TO COME TO FALL RIVER AND FIGHT LIKE FRANK DUX AND FRAUD

THIS IS AN EMAIL I SENT DAVID KILI HES A FRAUD.

You know KILI you so fraudulent your funny now. I'm going to send you this email then Its going up on my blog....ok When are you coming to Fall River fraud...and Dux lets not forget about him....hahahahaha


Q. You have to show up for that!
A. You never showed up january 9th neither and I can prove that. I had someone their watching if you and Floyd webb showed up and neither of you didnt....frauds

Q.Dante`ists??? Oh yeah, the hairdressing side of the Dante` system.

A. Its the Dante system of Fighting... Something you dont do FIGHT and neither does Dux....

Q.He is. He has quite the collection from Billy. About 3000 if I remember correctly.

A. Really Kili the 50,000 dollars Floyd webb spent on lawyers 3000 does even cover plane fair.... Whos the scmucks now KILI dont worry you and Dux will be doing the same shortly..

Q. We bluffed!?!?!When did that happen?When you said you would fight Floyd the sightly over weight "Film Maker" with no Martial Arts experience and then didn't show up?Maybe it was when Dux called you ladies and you were so F***ing scared on the phone to even say anything to him it was like pulling teeth to get you to say "hello", and that is ALL you said to him.Or... Maybe is was when you called Barron and he verbally bitch slapped you and told you he was coming to beat the shit out of you if you talk any more shit about him?

A. This is how you bluffed you never shown up for nothing, a fight a sanctioned fight, you cant prove your a pro...

Q. And I stand behind every word!They are piss poor examples of humanity.Your mama, your daddy, Creeden Jr., Creeden III, your teacher, Billy, Billy's dad, and your credentials.Did I miss anything?Hey, that reminds me. If Creeden II and Aguiar II were such dumb ass, loser ass, shit headed idiots. Why would you make Creeden/Aguiar III?

A. their the real guy unlike you and Dux, and Sky benson all fraud and losers just like Lawrence day

Q.You do know that all that information you are posting is not me right, douche bag.
A. The only DAVID KILI in the whole U.S.A. is you douche bag...Heres your tax evasion records

CIVIL RECORD VERIFICATION: CONFIRM CASE # 200205248353 AT THE COURT HOUSEDefendant: Kili, David J Case Number: 200205248353Filing Type: Federal Tax Lien - Income Entity Type: Individual RecordFiling Date: 20050912 Amount Liability: $11,539.00Address: 304 Irene St City: TaftState: Ca Zip: 93268Plaintiff: Usa Irs Court Code: Ca096Court Name: Kern County, Bakersfield Recorders Office Unlawful Detainer: N


CIVIL RECORD VERIFICATION: CONFIRM CASE # 9912331 AT THE COURT HOUSEDefendant: Kili, David J Case Number: 9912331Filing Type: Chapter 7 Filing (New) Entity Type: Individual RecordFiling Date: 19990316 Address: 304 Irene StCity: Taft State: CaZip: 93268 Attorney: Information UnavailableAssets Available: N Court Code: Cafref1Court Name: California Fed Court-Fresno Judge Initials: BdbAction Type: Bankruptcy


CIVIL RECORD VERIFICATION: CONFIRM CASE # 9912331 AT THE COURT HOUSEDefendant: Kili, David J Case Number: 9912331Filing Type: Chapter 7 Discharge Entity Type: Individual RecordFiling Date: 19990316 Address: 304 Irene StCity: Taft State: CaZip: 93268 Attorney: Information UnavailableAssets Available: N Court Code: Cafref1Court Name: California Fed Court-Fresno Judge Initials: BdbAction Type: Bankruptcy


CIVIL RECORD VERIFICATION: CONFIRM CASE # 200320040257813 AT THE COURT HOUSEDefendant: Kili, David J Case Number: 200320040257813Filing Type: State Tax Lien - Income Entity Type: Individual RecordFiling Date: 20041116 Amount Liability: $4,357.00Address: 3395 Mayfair Drn City: FresnoState: Ca Zip: 93703Plaintiff: State Of Ca Court Code: Ca071Court Name: Fresno County, Fresno Recorders Office Unlawful Detainer: N


Q.The first person to beat you chumps in court was Ashida Kim.

A. Personal jurisdiction Douch bag, but trust me Billy isnt going to make that mistake with you and Dux thats for sure.

Q.Hey, there is an idea! I know him. I'll bet I could get him to train you and then you could really say you trained under somebody.A. So your admitting to know Ashida Kim another grand fraud, you loser status is just getting bigger...lmfao

Q.You might have a point there, IF CREEDEN HAD SHOWED UP!!!But because Floyd knew it would be a waste of time and Creeden NEVER confirmed that he would meet Floyd. Why should he fly out there on the hope that Creeden would show?

A. You never showed up for anything in your life KILI. I showed up for Floyd webb but Floyd never showed. like you you never showed up in chicago fraud...

FRANK DUX IS NOT BLACK DRAGON FIGHTING SOCIETY

This is what happen when a wanna be frank dux doesnt show up for a fight he give up the name to his system to me John Creeden. All he needs to do is show up and fight for his right. he is a fraud and a fake like David Kili. I'm his grandmaster now and their nothing he can do to stop it. he just wont fight hes a fraud with no balls.

FLOYD WEBB LIE'S ONCE AGAIN CONCERNING JOHN KEEHAN STORY

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2261696#post2261696

Good night and good luck. Major duck, major fail, major troll. You won't be missed. ROFL...I have heard of all kinds of ways of ducking a fight. But this one beats them all. Truly you are the Supreme Master of Sho-Duk-Kwan, and NoShow-Fu. To be banned from Bullshido, to get declared a federal witness...wow. By the way, I am the defendant, Billy III is the plaintiff. And you set helped him set this up???What a hilarious comic ending. The time it took to ALLOW YOU to totally discredit yourself, Creeden, as a witness, as an on-line troll with ten years of badgering people was well worth it. Your comments are logged here for all to see and reference. Billy would do well to be done with the likes of you, laddie.Wow...what an ending....you really cannot make this stuff up!

FLOYD WEBB IS A LIAR AND A THIEF, HE STATES THAT I TROLLED AROUND FOR TEN YEARS. THATS JOHN PATRICIO YOU BETRAYER BOY THAT GAVE FLOYD WEBB EXCLUSIVE.

1. FLOYD WEBB AND ASHIDA KIM WAITED FOR MASTER AGUIAR TO DIE.
2. YOUR THE THIEF FLOYD WEBB
3. YOUR THE ONE WHO IS THE DEFENDANT THE ACCUSED.

AND ALL YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN LOGGED HERE FOR EVER..

INTERNATIONAL BDFS EXPOSED AGAIN PART 3

I'm not much of a talker. But I have to do this. I won't speak on matter pertaing to the current case at hand. But this article speak wonders of what I've been saying for some time now. First off Barron Shepperd he said for sometime that he has no affiliation with Radford Davis and their he is. Creeden has spoke of this repeately, but everyone said no your a friggin wacko their is no affiliation and no conspiracy. But their it is its all there.

And also the You-tube video which they comment on "Men in tights the person in the video is Barron Shepperd" And we all know that you can't edit a you -tube video. So Barron You busted big time. He's at 34 seconds and at 1:15
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY9kxXMYq30 And Barron Shepperd is a 7th Dan come on it took me all my life to attain that rank.

And Mr Dwyer he never saw Keehan after 1970 and I have proof of that. And he wasn't at the 68 convention and I have proof of that to. Now Dwyer was their come on when did that happen. Its a good read and why would they all be together.

Look I've dealt with Ashida Kim for along time he's nothing. But being e-mailed from Barron Shepperd saying that he doesn't know him and now their together. All I can say is I told you so.

To be in the Black Dragon Fighting Society you have to have balls and my John Handcock. Which none of you have.

And Felkoff using my father diploma, look you all contacted me. I never seaked any of you out at all your all fakes and frauds.


http://gendaikageryu.blogspot.com/

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 GM Doug Dwyer Seminar Master Doug Dwyer came to Florida to hold several classes for his long time student and friend Grand Master Lawrence Day. The series of classes began on Friday and lasted the entire weekend covering the original dances of death. The first to arrive of course were 7th degree black belt Joe Cayer along with several of his students including 2nd degree black belt Walter Knochenmus, Jr. grandmaster David Harris, Sensei Mike Mitchell from Fort Lauderdale. The infamous ninja master, Ashida Kim and Sensei Shakur from Mississippi along with others were the next to arrive. They all had traveled from different states to meet the man who knew John Keehan for over twenty years and trained with and ran Keehan’s classes in Chicago in the 60’s and 70’s. Dwyer was introduced to all attending by Grand Master Lawrence Day. Grand Master Day then proceeding to introduce others to each other for several minutes all were mingling and having very jovial conversation. Dwyer was introduced and mingled having conversation with everyone and after about twenty minutes the class began. It was apparent from the onset that Grand master Dwyer was in remarkable shape for a man who was 69 years of age. His punches, kicks and blocks were smooth, snappy and clean. The students that listened intently were from and eclectic array of styles either Japanese or Chinese styles some experienced in both some in just one. Some such as 7th degree black belt Joe Cayer had black belts in other styles as well as instructorship In Iaido. Sensei Barron Shepherd had several Japanese styles under his belt ranging from 2nd degree black belt to 7th degree black belt. The class ran on and then Doug Dwyer made some lovely comments to his wife who was also present and observing. He then pointed out a few things to a young woman named Lydia Cameron the only white belt in attendance. He asked Sensei Mitchell to demonstrate a couple of kicks such as the round house and side Kick which Mitchell performed with relative ease. After a few more moments of practice he then asked if anyone knew or had practiced Judo. After a few moments sensei Shepherd said he did. Master Dwyer then asked Shepherd his rank in judo and Shepherd answered he was a 2nd degree black belt. Dwyer had a little impromptu demo with Shepherd and then commented that he would like to have Shepherd demo some break falling techniques at a later date. A few more moments passed and then class was concluded. All began to mingle and have conversation again. After speaking with other members of the group Doug Dwyer and Ashida Kim spent several moments speaking. Ashida Kim was diminutive and ninja like in stature, and as Lawrence Day commented on, was in excellent shape. He was polite and some what soft spoken as he, Day and Dwyer spoke. After another twenty minutes or so all were off to a local restaurant. Once all arrived at the restaurant, Senseis Day, Dwyer and Kim sat in close proximity and spoke of the 68 democratic convention and china town. It was apparent that Ashida Kim and Doug Dwyer along with John Keehan had all been there. Dwyer then verified that Keehan and he were indeed teaching some classes there as well. Dwyer then fascinated the table of martial artists of stories from the good old days. It was apparent he and Keehan were long time running buddies with a penchant for getting up to their eyeballs in trouble and fighting their way out of it. Knochenmus, Cayer, Shepherd, Mitchell and Shakur all were chatting on the opposite side of the huge round table. It seemed that everyone in attendance were hitting it off well. Knochenmus and Shepherd spoke to each other all most the entire time sharing experiences in the military and speaking about Knochenmus' grandchildren. As the food arrived Sensei Joe Cayer said a prayer and blessed the food and conversations started again. Lydia Cameron had made a cake and all had desert. It was definitely to die for. Sensei Shepherd especially liked it and had two pieces. After dessert all leisurely strolled outside chatting and laughing then after several minutes said their good byes and agreed to meet for the next class at 8 am. Day, Cayer. Knochenmus, Shepherd, Harris and Kim all went back to Day’s hotel room and continued conversation. On the way back Shepherd was asked about his involvement with a documentary on Keehan’s life. Shepherd was jovial and then became serious. All listened as he explained his situation it was apparent he had some enemies that in his mind needed to be dealt with. The group of instructors seemed to hit it off well as the conversation lightened. They spoke of Dwyer, Keehan and made fun of common enemies. At one point one of the quests played a video he had made which consisted of some martial art group demonstrating to a sound track of a comedic Mel Brooks movie that was especially funny. Shepherd then made the comment that he got blamed for making the video and the quest that had brought it for all to see quickly apologized to him. The hilarious video proved to be a bonding moment for Shepherd and Sensei Cayer as they laughed hysterically. It was obvious both men had seen the video for the first time. Both Cayer and Shepherd seemed alot a like in the sense that both were men of conviction. Cayer a seemingly more spiritual type leader, who was hosting the seminar at his dojo the next morning was cordial, friendly and went out of his way to make all feel welcome. While Shepherd was more samurai like than spiritual. Both had as many diferences as they had in appearance. But amoungst them and the rest of the men in the room all personalites seemed to blend well. At about 10:30 pm all bid a good night and retired to their rooms. The next morning all began to arrive for the days training. Day walked in with Hall and Kim. Knochenmus walked in with Shakur and Mitchell and Shepherd walked in last and began speaking to Cayer and Knochenmus. Shepherd would be stoic and watchful one moment then jovial and charming the next. Cayer, Shepherd and Knochenmus were obviously making a joke about something only known to them and burst into laughter. Ashida Kim, Day and Dwyer spoke quietly in the corner. Sensei Harris treated a few of the guests with his Chinese acupressure techniques which included Doug Dwyer’s wife. It was the same as before all were mingling and chatting. The atmosphere was friendly and jovial. New friendships and bonds had been formed among this special group of martial artists. The class began with Dwyer instructing all were working on punches, blocking techniques and kicks with weighted hands and feet. Dwyer demonstrated some blocking techniques with Knochenmus. There were times when all would hit a move then freeze and Dwyer went thru the crowd making corrections and doing demonstrations on some. All were listening intently and doing their best to please their instructor. They continually adjusted their positions as Dwyer instructed. Dwyer would demonstrate with the weights and then put them down to execute striking techniques which were executed quickly, powerfully and accurately stopping just a hairs width from hitting Sensei Mitchell. Dwyer had captured everyone’s respect and admiration with his ability and charisma. It was understandable how he and Keehan were so close for so long. Dwyer continually came to Shepherd to do demos it was evident that these two had fast become friends and respected each others talents and abilities. Dwyer asked Shepherd to walk across the room commented that Shepherd's posture and movement was good and that of a big cat, smooth, alert and ready to move when needed to. It was apparent that all in attendance were highly skilled. Lydia Cameron performed a technique and all instructors present nodded their heads in agreement as she initiated the action correctly. At about 10:30 a couple of the guests announced they had to leave, so Dwyer ended class and began to mingle and take pictures. Dwyer and Day then presented Ashida with a rank certificate for 10th dan recognizing his contributions to the martial arts. Pictures continued, Shepherd struck with a since of humility had to be coerced to have his picture taken. He reluctantly agreed to all. An inside joke with Cayer was shared with he and Shepherd again and all burst into laughter. Cayer who was somewhat smaller than Shepherd was extremely comfortable with him and obviously had no quams about razzing Shepherd when the oppurtunity arose. Day and Shepherd were having a conversation and the rest of the group from the previous night found out that Shepherd and Day had foregone sleep and stayed up to the wee hours of the morning talking. Strong friendships had definitely been made. A group picture was then taken with Gm Doug Dwyer standing next to Kim along with Harris, Day, Mitchell and Shakur all in the back while others such as Knochenmus, Mitchell, Shepherd and Lydia seated on the floor. Several Pictures were being taken when Lydia commented on the fact that Shepherd had stopped smiling and became stoic and stern again. The two shared some banter with each other that could nt be heard and Shepherd once again smiled. Another inside joke was blurted out, more pictures were taken, and the band of brothers and one sister burst into laughter.

These are the things I and Bullshido have dealt with for years. And this is why I'm the guy.

INTERNATIONAL BDFS EXPOSED AGAIN PART 2

This is an addition to the blog were I found the article http://gendaikageryu.blogspot.com/. They just added this. Talk about back stepping. I have followed Ashida Kim and his worthless minions for years. You don't need to explain yourself your even more busted by doing this.

Their whole exzistance is based on a lie. Like Marty Cale who owns this web-site http://theblackdragonfightingsociety.com. Who is in the International BDFS http://www.blackdragon.co.za/content...ille_tennesee/

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Head of Family Douglas Dwyer - 10th Degree - Chicago Assitant Head Woody Edwell - 10th Degree - Chicago Joseph Dodaro - 8th Dgree - Chicago Victor Moore - 10th Degree - North Carolina Michael Felkoff - 10th Degree - Las Vegas Lawrence Day - 10th Degree - Florida Marty Cale - 10th Degree - Arkansas Stoffel van Vuuren - 10th Degree - South Africa John Ward - 8th Degree - Ireland Carlos Dias - 10th Degree - Puerto Rico Shihan David Haliva - 6th Degree - Israel Samuel Joseph Lonewolf - 10th Degree - Texas

I can tie it in all day long. Its ok you talked about shit that you shouldn't have talked about. This is what I expect from people like you and Kim and Shepperd dummies and frauds.

Also the story proves that it did happen, so you fail. So man up and keep your mouth shut next time.

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P.S. 11/6/2008 - It has come to my attention in my comments section, that after my article was written that someone is trying to use it on another site as a means of misrepresentation or fabrication. I feel that I need to clarify a couple of things. It was never my intent to tarnish anyone who attended the seminar or anyone else including Mr. Aguiar or have my article be used in such a way to do so. First, I never personally witnessed or heard anyone mention Mr. Aquiar's name or the BDFS for that matter.

Dwyer was a visiting an old friend and student Lawrence Day. While he was here in Florida he offered several classes during the weekend. I find it far presumptous on Mr. Aquiar's part to even suggest that this had anything to do with him, nor do I recall anyone with the name Aguiar even attending the seminar. I also find it difficult to believe people would travel hundreds of miles just to conspire against Mr. Aguiar.

Second, Mr. Shepherd was only there for two of the six classes. He arrived late friday afternoon so he didnt make Mr. Dwyer's first class but he was there for the second class and then left saturday about lunch time after the third class. Mr. Dwyer was disappointed at Shepherd's leaving and expressed it to him by wanting him to stay for one more class. Everyone else that attended stayed for the entirity of the 6 classes.

Mr. Shepherd seemed to have alot in common with a group of Shotokan karate people who were at the seminar and was mostly conversing and hanging out with them. While Dwyer, Day, Luthor and Kim who were the oldest, all in thier sixties to be exact, were hanging out together for the most part. I never witnessed what Mr. Aguair claims happened.

For Mr. Aguiar to attempt to use my article to prove a "conspiracy" as he puts it, that in all actuallity, in my presence did not happen, is complete fabrication and misuse of my article.

INTERNATIONAL BDFS EXPOSED AGAIN

No threats implied just fact, no assumptions implied just fact. Your pretty informed with what went on their, so you fail once again in back stepping. You went to eat with them and your step by step play you are defenitely in the circle of frauds.

http://gendaikageryu.blogspot.com/2008/11/threats.html

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For Mr. Aguiar to attempt to use my article to prove a "conspiracy" as he puts it, that in all actuallity, in my presence did not happen, is complete fabrication and misuse of my article.

You were their your article was quite informative. And I know what I know.

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The group of instructors seemed to hit it off well as the conversation lightened. They spoke of Dwyer, Keehan and made fun of common enemies. At one point one of the quests played a video he had made which consisted of some martial art group demonstrating to a sound track of a comedic Mel Brooks movie that was especially funny. Shepherd then made the comment that he got blamed for making the video and the quest that had brought it for all to see quickly apologized to him. The hilarious video proved to be a bonding moment for Shepherd and Sensei Cayer as they laughed hysterically. It was obvious both men had seen the video for the first time.

Its the men in tights video, so you fail again. Its self explanatory you need not go over it again.

And what threats, you helped me out by posting it, I bet you made some enemies on that side from this one. You better worry about them not me whistle blower.


http://gendaikageryu.blogspot.com/2008/11/threats.html

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Thursday, November 6, 2008
Threats
I am not a professional journalist or writer I just do some writing for a hobby. So you can imagine how surprised I was when an article of mine illicted threats from one called William Aguiar. I made no comment about him or his organization nor did I mention him in my article or hear his name mentioned when I was at the seminar.

However, Mr. Aguiar attempted to make some very broad assumptions about what went on at the seminar even though he wasn't there. Looking to read between the lines for a message to him that did not exist, except only in his mind.

Apparently the fact that I did not mention him or do a negative article on a certain group of people brings about Mr. Aguiar's threatening behavior. When I offered a post script to rebute his broad assumptions I got hit with phrases like "man up or shut up" and that "I should nt have talked" used as if he would do me bodily harm if I didnt write something that was more to his liking. He misread my post script as backing up on my statements, which not a one of my statements did I back pedal on.

TO THE HUMAN RACE, BULLSHIDO

Oh and here is a response to Jawney:

Come on man!!! You have busted balls here so much and then you give Sam shit on your blog? Firstly you censor your shit so you are a hypocrite to call Sam for a legitimate Ban... What if I want to comment on your blogg Jawney? Open your blogg up to scrutiny at the very least... its only fair.

SEcond Sam and others here have tried to give you every benefit of the doubt and you still shit on this place?

Why don't you be cooperative and use a screen name and express your perspective legitimately? Instead of slandering people, letting jerk offs use your screen name (including Billy), and other shit that you don't want to take responsability for.

Seriously, and I don't intend on alienating you but grow the fuck up and consider joining the human race, its never too late.


Okay, since I don't have regular puter access can someone provide a link to Billy's last known post so I can get his user name? Then I will talk to my fellow staff about sending a new password to the e-mail that was used to register that account.

Then if Creeden somehow starts posting a billy I will then ban Billy's reactivated account.

TO THE JUDGE AND THE LAWYERS

People seem to think that me and Billy are in some type of conspiracy. This is not the case at all. I don't agree with all the stuff thats going on . I'm the only one who is taking the heat. People threatening and talking smack especially from Patricio and Shepperd their the ones who have been the biggest trouble makers. One Billys best friend for 20 years and Shepperd who is related to Radford Davis and own his property , it all goes to show that both sides that if everyone stayed out of this. Then a deal between Billy and Floyd in 05 would have happened. But Patricio and Shepperd were poisoning Floyd Webb way before I was involved. I wasn't involved until 2007. And the footage that was supposely shot off a TV screen was not shot off a TV screen. It was 1st generation it was changed to Black and White for the DVD in 2001. Billy knew that when he put it out. It would be stolen and this whole situation proves it.

What I would really like is my name taken off Floyd Webb's blog .http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/

1.This guy Timmy Cabral called Floyd a "coon" I got blamed for that. Guys I have a black uncle thats why I pulled the plug on Bullshido. And 75% of my friends are black.

2. John Patricio said on line that Billy killed hookers I got blamed for that

3. Calling Barron Shepperd mother in the middle of the night, I defintely didn't do that. I definteely want that cleared up in court. I want the phone records, facts

4. And now this Matt and UKI thing not me at all, really I can't be bothered with this circus.

They'll all say it is me, but who cares. I know what I've done and this stuff isn't me

I always wanted to work with Floyd Webb and I still do. I was the one who sought him out against Billys advice. See Billy never told me about e-mails from Shepperd stating that he bought Ashida Kim's stuff for 1000 dollars. I didn't know what this was all about. I didn't even see Billy until 2007 the last time I saw Billy was 1988. Their was alot of things going on in the school that my father didn't agree with so he left.

It goes to show that Radford Davis and Shepperd were out to screw Billy over and who ever was in their way to defraud the BDFS . I have several recorded phone calls pertaining to Shepperd and how he wanted to place my father as the head of the International BDFS that Felkoff runs now. My father smelled a rat especially when Shepperd said he never knew who Ashida kim was.

Now this is what pissed me off the slander started first with Floyd Webb's post

http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/

The Purchased FootageJohn Creeden, Jr, a direct student of Count Dante was offered $1000.00 for footage he shot of Count Dante and he accepted that offer and was paid. The investor paid $500.00 upfont for the footage site unseen. Meanwhile, his son, John Creeden, III talked to the investor and did what he could to try to change the initial deal by adding some printed materials. The investor was disappointed in the footage because it was clearly shot from a TV screen with a video camera. Due to John Creeden III's unprofessional behavior he made a decision not to go into business with him.

Late Night Calls to 81 year old mothers?Part of the investors decision was triggered by someone making a call to the investors 81 year old mother in the middle of the night telling "your son is dead." We do not know who made the call, we levelled no accusations. But it came after a heated argument between the investor and John Creeden III who told him how long his arms could reach and his associations with the Irish Mafia in Florida. This was deleted from my blog a few days ago. But I am putting it back after seeing John Creeden III announced online I gave someone $7500.00 for images I got off of http://archive.org. He says he is going for a job in law enforcement. Go figure.

I want them to go to the authorities so we can clear this up once and for all. What I want is the phone records from Shepperd's mother phone. And then my name would be cleared and the harassment from them on-line would stop. On June 8 2007 I had a phone call from Webb stating that he said its wasn't me who called someones mother. I told Webb that no one else knows about this transaction. So he deleted a post and then I mentioned on count dante.com that Floyd gave Patricio 7500 dollars for paperwork that Patricio had for a book with Billy. This is what Shepperd told me to probably entice me into a deal. And all hell broke loose, but then patricio had their e-mails and then opened the http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/1bdfs/ were he gave Floyd Webb exclusive Flyers that no one had. Floyd states that he got it from the wayback machine. No way it is a lie.

So if Floyd can say on the 1bdfs board that Aguiar is busted. And Patricio stated that he was killing hookers, that actually involved a Rhode Island State Trooper. And Barron Shepperd stating that someone calls his so called mother{ we still don't know if the women is still alive} then we have the right to fight fire with fire so to speak.

I have started another blog http://john-keehan.blogspot.com/ were my father will tell his story about John. Considering that he ran the WKF and the BDFS for almost 19 years and was Johns personal friend. And all their legal issues back then. My father put the mail order business together with John Keehan.

Also the Bertrauix post is really the truth. The lawyers need to check these links.

1.http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/vanloo/mylewis.htm

2.http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/hallo.htm

3.http://www.soul.org/

4.http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/otoa.htm

5.http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/xi.htm

6.http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/bishops.htm

I want the Judge and the Lawyers to make their own decisions. I've known about Bertrauix and Lully way before any of you ever heard of them. I'm not the only one who is on Billys side of things their are alot of people hear watching in the shadows so to speak. And some of them are coming out of the wood work now and then to disrupt the proceedings. Federal court is no joke guys.

Billy is on his own when it pertains to this whole mess. Isn't it funny that Billy hasn't said nothing or has he.

Floyd I would like to apologize for any hurt or mistrust you may have felt towards me. I really sorry for some of the thing and how they work out. Like I said call my father or a lawyer can. You would be intrested in the way things worked out. I'm done with Billy I got a cease and desist order from him to separate himself from me. I have changed the passwords to this blog so it will not happen again.

None of this would have ever happened if you didn't introduce me to Barron Shepperd and you didn't tell me that he bought Ashida Kims intelluctual property and copyright. And their a story of a e-mail coming out of Billys from me that didn't happen.

I will put information on the blog I'm running here http://john-keehan.blogspot.com/.

AN OLDIE BUT GOODIE, AFTER I GOT SWINDLED BY FLOYD WEBB

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HEY THAT WAS A FUNNY VIDEO PATRICIO,GAY PORN BOY

When me and my friends watched it we laughed our asses off, but dude you must have alot of gay porn around your house to have that amount of gay porn info around you must be gay. Dude I wouldn't even look at gay porn, but for you to edit that and look at those pictures over and over again you must be gay. Oh my god Billy lived with a gay guy , oh my god I'm gonna brake his balls big time. Patricio did you ever touch Billy in his nono's. Wow your a faggot to look at that amount of gay porn.

When i put up Patricio sucks ass, I mean you suck ass gay porn boy. OMG you gay Patricio wow were did you get all that GAY PORN. FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JOHN YOU MUST HAVE A LIBRARY OF GAY PORN.

JOE DORADO BIO YOU GOTTA READ THIS, BDFS INTERNATIONAL FAKE.

This guy states he was the teacher to John Keehan. This guys a laugh he'll teach you out of his 1850 pages and 900 full color pages in a nice slideshow. This is his web-site http://www.internaldefensesystem.com/. Its nice in away, ok I mean cheap. What I really like is the stealth aircraft flying around the planet. Ok I'll bite what credentials does this guy have. What are they gonna do Like Felkoff coming up with William Jr diploma again knuckleheads. William the father would have flown to Nevada and fuck'in dropped Felkoff right in his tracks.
So check it out another faker, teacher of Keehan my ass. You have to love the cast of characters Floyd Webb has affiliated with some real fakers that real martial artist just laugh at.

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INTERNAL DEFENSE SYSTEM POISON HANDS TECHNIQUES
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The Deadly Poison Hand Tactical Defense of the Shaolin Chuan-Fa Warrior. Multiple Attackers, Knife Defense. Grandmaster James Lee a Shaolin Abbot Warrior Monk advances Joseph Dodaro to Master of Shaolin Chuan-Fa, the Father Art of Shaolin Kempo and Shaolin Kempo Karate. He was the teacher to John Keehan (Count Dante). Grandmaster Hsu, Fun Yuen advances Joseph Dodaro to Master of Tai Ji and Qigong and releases The Deadly Internal Dim Mak Strike which enhances Internal Energy, Power, and Force to create Internal CHI. Grandmaster Koichi Tohei advances Sensei Dodaro to Shoden, Fourth Level of KI Development in Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido. Shihan Fumio Toyoda promotes Sensei Dodaro to Yodan, Fourth Degree Black Belt under Morihei Ueshiba, Hombu Dojo

JOE DORADO ANOTHER FAKE INTERNATIONAL BDFS ANOTHER FLOYD WEBB BACKER

This guys poison hand is as weak as Ashida Kim. These guys from the International fake BDFS are not reputable martial artists. Were did Felkoff get his Mastership and Day from a cracker jack box. Their not respected by any respectable martial artist. Floyds film gets weaker and weaker by the day when he involves himself with fakes like kim and Felkoff and Day. Their all from Chicago and their weak, the only one's who are respectable are Ray Cooper and Russel Brown.

The story is getting no play with respectable martial arts people. its because everybody who was alive at the time knows that the people in the film are not telling the truth when it comes to the events in Keehans life. Floyds interpretation of a small weak little black boy who meets an Irish Catholic Karate expert. You really have to be an martial artists to tell this story of how he rose to promince and how Chicago killed him and the betrayal of his friends and business associate's in Chicago.

Joe Dorado your Martial artists is weak, are you sure you don't have a diaper under those silk PJ's. Maybe you and Felkoff and Day can change each others diapers. And all you guys can go with Stoffel and they can go beat up some black people in South Africa. So floyd can affiliate himself with South African's who are racists towards African's. Thats fucked up Floyd.

FLOYD WEBB LIAR CHEAT AND ALL AROUND SCUM BAG

Foley and Hoag sent Ray Peck this letter. Mr Peck gave my father these over chow mein sandwiches in a Chinese restaurant. Mr Peck is the head of probate and family court , see their was amended paper submitted in Probate court. That really pissed Floyd and his lawyers off big time.

See its all about ownership, see Barron and Dwyer, and Felkoff want to cash in in return sales of BDFS and WKF merchandise. Sorry losers thats not going to happen. I wonder if Bob Sandon will be included in the initial disclosures or is that just another bold face lie from Floyd Webb once again. Floyd was saying that their wasn't a total buy out for the book in 1969. But once again Floyd is a liar who makes up stories to benefit himself without an proof what so ever. How come Bob Sandon isn't included in the case, because Floyd Webb lie's. I wonder how Floyd is going to like it when it happens to him.

I got my hand s on a dvd descrambler and I'll reap more profits from this movie than Floyd Webb will. Got a friend who can burn up to 100 dvd at one time. I'm ready for you Floyd. not bad for a "wannabe gangster" right Floyd. Lets see from the black market sales and my court case against you. I'll be reaping at least 35% to 45 % of your profits one way or another. And I can't wait to get a hold of your posters and advertisement's either.

Mr. Peck assured us that Floyd Webb has nothing in Fall River, that they have no grounds and they are desperate to get merchandising. He said once the judge declares that Billy owns the books and the logo's. Floyds going to pay William III one way or another. So Fuck You you wannabe film maker. I've talked to people in Tribeca film festival they never heard of you.

FLOYD WEBB WANNABE FILM MAKER AND AMEATURE AT BEST

See what Floyd Webb hates is the two things that Billy III has the film footage and the book . These are the major things in Floyd webbs movie . With out the footage and the book his movie suck, well the movie sucks already. Billy and I have the only footage of him in existence and the book WDFS is in his possession for a reason . He Keehan hated the Chicago guys for fuck in him over after the Dojo war. So it ended up in William Jr hands for a reason. So fuck you Floyd, you couldn't deal if you tried you never tried to negotiate.

Keehan was hear and he didn't want to be in Chicago at all, he broke all contact with them. Remember this they all had schools off of Keehans coat tails and they all made money on him .when his image would have ruined their cash registers they couldn't have that. They fucked the guy who made them who they are. In Fall River he was excepted with open arms and a fresh start with 4 established schools here. And all the action was already going on here, so fuck Chicago. Like this Joe Dorodaro we looked at the rolls that Keehan has from 1966 to 1970 and his name never shows up at all. So another Floyd Webb fakes in the BDFS international, Floyd you suck dick just like the rest of you faggot Chicago boys.

Floysd is a little man and he is married we skipped traced him with a P.I. . Not bad for a "wannabe gangster" Floyd Right, Didn't I tell you I'm filing against you in R.I. Federal Court I'll post the JS-44 form against you this week.

Your a racist asshole telling a movie of a racist asshole and their a alot of rascist assholes in Chicago then. So your little film means nothing. Your amature at best.

JOHN PATRICIO ARE YOU IN THEIR

This would be the only way you would be in the woods Mr Patricio. Actually the photo is from Anthony Spilitoro and his brothers shallow grave. he was made famous in Casino. He was played by Joe Pescis character he was part of the Hole in the Wall Gang in Chicago. This picture was a corn field in Indiana were him and his brother were baseball batted and buried alive .

They were from Chicago and his father owned Patsy's restaurant in Chicago and was a friend of Keehan named Joey Auiuppa. He Spilitoro was wacked for fuckin around with Frank Rosenthal wife which was played by Robert Di Nero in Casino.

YOU NOW SOMETHING DSIMON YOUR RIGHT , I'M DOC SAVAGE

I'm definitely an adventures type person. I'm into climbing and shooting definitely the hero type. I may not type well but I know my way around a GPS better than anyone. As stupid as it sounds I don't like to loose at all, I have a winning attitude even in the face of defeat. You guys if you knew me would definetely would want to go threw a door with me. I've never left a friend behind no were. My friends say you want to be with John when the zombies come. I'm more at home in the wood than behind a stupid computer, and I'll be the first to admit it shows.

My skills were never suppose to be in the cyberworld, I'm old school sorry guys I've actually been on the mat the hard way. While you guys were making movie's and became writers or mail order freaks. Some of us like Dsimon and Verne Gilbert bled old school and Dwyer and Edgell Russel Brown to. How many of you train in the wood I still do and run in my gi in the woods Oyama style. People need fundamentals and to stop running their mouths on line and go to the mat. And that separates the men from the boys in the first exchange.

WHO DID I THREATEN , MAKING SOMEONE PHONE RING ISN'T A THREAT

Come on pussy be a man tell me who you are. I like bad things Ninjoo come on expose yourself. Hey I'll give Floyd some respect for showing some balls, but you your an Ashida crony. You'll go down like a ton of brick's. But I'll bet that I'll have to pay 10,000 dollars. You seem to think that taking down a blog is going to hurt me . I have four unpublished blogs already ready to go up. Thats about as far as you gonna get from me Ninjoo, come on expose yourself. If you have the balls which I now you don't. So run back to your paper master , I hear he's teaching cripples to sword fight. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah

DONT HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME NINJOO

See Ninjoo your a Asshida Kim pussy , they hate you even more on bullshido than me . See I've been a member of Bullshido and a supporting member on that board for about 6 months , you seem to think that I post as Lamokio they don't now it me . I can say whatever I want when I want. Floyd Webb wants to post that I called someone mother in the middle of the night. That's why I am doing what I'm doing. he did that with no proof at all. When he deleted that post it was after he talked to me on June 8 2007. See I was the only one who knew what was going on. Oh ya Charles Kidd and the Dixie Boys were my fathers and Keehans friend. He ran the Fronton's in the South, for dummies its Jai Lai. You fuck with my father you pay. This is what i'm going to do I'm going to get a pre-paid cell phone and put all the recorded conversations from barron and Floyd so you can here the bullshit that they tried to sell.

How come Barron Shepperd and Floyd Webb never went to the cops , because if that happened to my mother . It didn't happen and if it happened to me they would be fuckin dead , I take that shit personally . No women no kids that's the code . So if Floyd doesn't want to take it down hey " you reap what you sew".

Fuck all you guys ,you guys never even met Keehan and Floyd never did either except for one time. You guys have no ball's as men , you don't want to know the truth of Keehan to put him on a pedestal and make him some sort of hero is wrong.

On more thing I never met Patricio never knew him or heard his name, it was Barron Shepperd who told me about 7500 dollars. Why would I make that up when I never heard of the name at all . Then all of a sudden John Patricio gave exclusive Flyer from over 40 years ago to Floyd and starts a board with all this exclusive shit about Keehan. So John Patricio was talking to Floyd Webb in 05 and John Patricio never told Billy Aguiar what he was doing. So the money thing kinda fits.

Also the Archive .org that Floyd claims he got the shit from is a complete lie, because it was never posted their the Flyers were never posted their so yet again their all liars. Barron was so hungry to get the footage . So Floyd took possession of illegal footage , that like taking possession of stolen property, so that a crime .

So in closing they try to blame me , but they were trying to fuck Billy III for along time since 05 way before me. And Patricio to get someones personal e-mails from Barron Shepperd and Floyd Webb you had to get paid something and you are very close. John to do something like that to a friend is wrong it wasn't yours to give. they were exposed and they don't like it. I'm not Billy.

Also Lord of Chaos are you ASIAN or something and Indonesian style and a Fillipino style. You must be really small.

THANKS FOR THE INFO I JUST COMPLAINED ABOUT FLOYD'S BLOG

Hey thanks guy for the info, dummies you never do anything and post it . kool-aid drinkers.