INTERNATIONAL BDFS EXPOSED AGAIN PART 2

This is an addition to the blog were I found the article http://gendaikageryu.blogspot.com/. They just added this. Talk about back stepping. I have followed Ashida Kim and his worthless minions for years. You don't need to explain yourself your even more busted by doing this.

Their whole exzistance is based on a lie. Like Marty Cale who owns this web-site http://theblackdragonfightingsociety.com. Who is in the International BDFS http://www.blackdragon.co.za/content...ille_tennesee/

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Head of Family Douglas Dwyer - 10th Degree - Chicago Assitant Head Woody Edwell - 10th Degree - Chicago Joseph Dodaro - 8th Dgree - Chicago Victor Moore - 10th Degree - North Carolina Michael Felkoff - 10th Degree - Las Vegas Lawrence Day - 10th Degree - Florida Marty Cale - 10th Degree - Arkansas Stoffel van Vuuren - 10th Degree - South Africa John Ward - 8th Degree - Ireland Carlos Dias - 10th Degree - Puerto Rico Shihan David Haliva - 6th Degree - Israel Samuel Joseph Lonewolf - 10th Degree - Texas

I can tie it in all day long. Its ok you talked about shit that you shouldn't have talked about. This is what I expect from people like you and Kim and Shepperd dummies and frauds.

Also the story proves that it did happen, so you fail. So man up and keep your mouth shut next time.

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P.S. 11/6/2008 - It has come to my attention in my comments section, that after my article was written that someone is trying to use it on another site as a means of misrepresentation or fabrication. I feel that I need to clarify a couple of things. It was never my intent to tarnish anyone who attended the seminar or anyone else including Mr. Aguiar or have my article be used in such a way to do so. First, I never personally witnessed or heard anyone mention Mr. Aquiar's name or the BDFS for that matter.

Dwyer was a visiting an old friend and student Lawrence Day. While he was here in Florida he offered several classes during the weekend. I find it far presumptous on Mr. Aquiar's part to even suggest that this had anything to do with him, nor do I recall anyone with the name Aguiar even attending the seminar. I also find it difficult to believe people would travel hundreds of miles just to conspire against Mr. Aguiar.

Second, Mr. Shepherd was only there for two of the six classes. He arrived late friday afternoon so he didnt make Mr. Dwyer's first class but he was there for the second class and then left saturday about lunch time after the third class. Mr. Dwyer was disappointed at Shepherd's leaving and expressed it to him by wanting him to stay for one more class. Everyone else that attended stayed for the entirity of the 6 classes.

Mr. Shepherd seemed to have alot in common with a group of Shotokan karate people who were at the seminar and was mostly conversing and hanging out with them. While Dwyer, Day, Luthor and Kim who were the oldest, all in thier sixties to be exact, were hanging out together for the most part. I never witnessed what Mr. Aguair claims happened.

For Mr. Aguiar to attempt to use my article to prove a "conspiracy" as he puts it, that in all actuallity, in my presence did not happen, is complete fabrication and misuse of my article.

I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE THEIR HARRASEMENT

http://pub40.bravenet.com/forum/3407321802

Its really funny that the Aguiar Busted thread is deleted, no worry It was saved , HAHAHA. Billy gonna bring you back Barron , sorry.

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Floyd Webb
May 9, 08 - 1:52 PM
Court Today has ended... Veryyyyyyyyy Interesting time in Federal Court in Boston today. I will not say anything. It will all come out in Justia next week. I am cool though. Gonna leave you all in suspense until it hits the public record. Aguiar does have a lawyer at last. This should make all the other deliberations easier now he has professional assistance. He has some hurdles meanwhile.
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Floyd Webb
May 9th, 2008 - 2:32 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... Someone just emailed me and asked me about the "heat being turned up." Well yeah it was. But the heat was not on me. Like I said, wait to see the Justia filings. This way no need to deal with external spin. The film is on schedule to be finished this year. I am back to fundraising with no worries. Watch my blog for some interesting news.
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mschremp
May 9th, 2008 - 3:24 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... **** It Floyd,This is worse than a Hitchcock Movie. Good LuckMike S
mschremp
May 9th, 2008 - 3:50 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... Wow, am I reading this right???Mike S
Floyd Webb
May 9th, 2008 - 4:15 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... You are...you are...
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Verne Gilbert
May 9th, 2008 - 5:12 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... Looks like a very good day in court. As suspected good wins over evil. As predicted Billy starts to pay and will continue to pay.Verne
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Floyd Webb
May 9th, 2008 - 5:38 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... I hear Creeden is wondering why no one is talking. We are all talking, just not to him. There is no reason for me to talk to or about him.
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Verne Gilbert
May 9th, 2008 - 6:09 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... FloydCongrats on the court ruling of today. Is it standard procedure for the judge to advise the plaintiff of his 5th amendment rights? To me that doesn't sound good for W.A. III.Verne
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Floyd Webb
May 9th, 2008 - 7:43 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... It will all be revealed when the case is done.
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mschremp
May 10th, 2008 - 5:40 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... If I have read this right it appears that things are about to get very serious for William. I have never heard of 5th ammendment rights being addressed in a civil case. Are criminal charges about to be filed against Aguiar???Mike S
darrell simon
May 10th, 2008 - 7:58 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... Vern and Mike you guys are legal eagles man! I understand the jist of the motion but thats about it.
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mschremp
May 10th, 2008 - 8:51 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... I've just never heard of the 5th ammendment being applied to a civil case. I thought the 5th ammendement is reserved for criminal cases but it appears that may not be true.From Wikipedia:The Fifth Amendment protects witnesses from being forced to incriminate themselves. To "plead the Fifth" is a refusal to answer a question because the response could form self incriminating evidenceFifth Amendment protections apply wherever and whenever an individual is compelled to testify. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the right against self-incrimination applies whether the witness is in Federal or state court, and whether the proceeding itself is criminal or civil.So evidently the court is definately warning William about self-incrimination of some sort.Mike S
darrell simon
May 10th, 2008 - 11:30 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... Yes. Sam's explanation was helpful on this account. That judge must be muttering to himself that he should have taken his wife's advice and retired a year ago.
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Floyd Webb
May 10th, 2008 - 11:39 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/massachusetts/madce/1:2007cv11673/111449/89/this might be a clue....
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mschremp
May 10th, 2008 - 11:56 AM
Re: Court Today has ended... For what its worth, sounds like to me they have dug themselves a hole that they are not going to be able to climb out of. Federal courts are starting to recognize the dangers of online threats and intimidation and they are acting on these threats. I really would not want to be in their shoes.Mike S
Verne Gilbert
May 10th, 2008 - 12:16 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... Well!! All I can say is that for a very long time many of us have been trying to advise certain people to be careful as to what they say and how they treat others. There are always consequences for our actions. I would suspect that this 5th amendment thing could be just the start of some very serious legal problems, (not civil court) for some.Verne
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John Patricio
May 10th, 2008 - 1:10 PM
Re: Court Today has ended... Mountains of trouble in store for Aguiar... and Creeden? I have a feeling that Creeden who deems himself untouchable is going to be in for a surprise if/when the judge subpoenas him into court. I can't imagine that he is just going to ignore him much further. Creeden should just be lucky that the judge dropped the case against Barron or those phone calls to his mom would be coming up too.

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May 10, 08 - 12:35 PM
Ashida, Ashida, Ashida When all is obvious at this point that it is almost over old accusations arise again. As sanctions are placed on Aquiar it seems once again the conspiracy theory is brought back up. I have no busness relationship with Ashida Kim I do not employ him in any way shape or form nor do I or my wife have anything to do with him or his site what so ever. Ashida is neither related to me in any way as Creeden has also tried to claim in the past. Creeden yells he speaks the truth when all he has done is lie and make false accusations.Just because one of my homes is in Winter Haven a town whose population is over 30,000 in number(2006 consensus). Somehow this puts me in business with Ashida Kim. My other home in Indiana is John Cougar Mellencamp's home but does that put me in businees with him?Burt Reynolds once had a home in Winter Haven a few blocks of my home but that doesnt mean I knew him or was in business with him.Most of us live in a society that today many dont even know who lives a few houses away in our own neighborhoods. SO there again how does this make Ashida Kim a business associate. How does a over head picture of a nieghborhood which does not appear to be my neighborhood put me in businees with Ashida Kim.Again business associations with Ashida Kim do not exist in any way.I am sick of the accusations and if anymore legal action is brought against me or my wife I will start my own letigations for filing frivilous suits against me and my family. Dmca take downs: Ashida DID NOT represent me in any take downs NOR did he represent me in waving certain rights as Creeden has claimed. If there was any truth to us being in business together or that he was representing me we would still be in court.Youtube however recieved a email from me about two parties that were using either my name or likeness or my company's name and information taken from my site to thier benefit. My email simply stated that no one had permission to use me or badassfightwear.com in any way shape or form. One was using pics off my site the other was using me as an endorsement neither had my permission so BOTH partie's vids were removed.My email also stated that if they agreed to remove anything pertaining to me or badassfightwear.com that I would have no objection to them reposting the vids.Creeden's account became suspended when he refused to comply and kept posting other vids with information from Badassfightwear.com while Ashida Kim removed anything pertaining to me and reposted his vids.But rather than tell you the truth Creeden wants to continue with the charade that I am a business partner with Ashida Kim. My attorney has a copy of the email to youtube that I sent.My story from day one Has not changed. I do not have a youtube account where I post vids nor does anyone represent me that does so. There is no businees relationship with Ashida Kim or Dojopress or any of the youtube accounts that post stuff up in his behalf or anyone elses for that matter.
Verne Gilbert
May 10th, 2008 - 1:12 PM
Re: Ashida, Ashida, Ashida Hi BarronIf I were in your place I would not spent any more time on this matter. I would just give my attorney and few hundred dollars, tell him to put a stop to the slander and harassment.Verne
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John Patricio
May 10th, 2008 - 1:31 PM
Re: Ashida, Ashida, Ashida Barron, this is not even worth trying to defend. That aerial view made me laugh too! Truth is considering how angry you are, I really don't understand why you haven't brought suit against both Auiar and Creeden already. Aguiar for your attorney's fees and Creeden for the threats and harassment. Unlike me, you can afford it. As far as the video footage... you paid for it, it's legally yours. Creeden needs to grasp that "signatures" are not needed to make a sale final when you buy something. People buy groceries, clothes and DVDs everyday and all they ever have to do is pay... and Creeden got paid $1,000. End of sale!
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mschremp
May 10th, 2008 - 1:44 PM
Re: Ashida, Ashida, Ashida Barron,Dont waste your time with this guy. He has posted so many lies and half truths that no one believes him anyway. If it really is bothering you that bad I agree with Vern, take him to court. I'm sure he needs more legal problems.Mike S
Barron
May 10th, 2008 - 4:03 PM
Re: Ashida, Ashida, Ashida Nothing has been forgotten and things are in the works.
Barron
May 10th, 2008 - 4:11 PM
Re: Ashida, Ashida, Ashida I am actually still waiting for Creeden, who claimed he was in Winter haven and knew where I live, to tap me on the shoulder as he said he was going to do.

FLOYD WEBBS MOVIE COMPLETELY FLAWED WITH LIES AND UN TRUTHS

I've told you all that I've researched all of Dante/Keehans religion and personal story way before Floyd touched his first film. His religion as a fine Irish catholic boy turned to the darkside when he was introduced to Marc Lully, Lully the porno shop owner was into some alful shit, I'm glad hes dead and gone. This guys is responsible for alot of mother daughters and sons from coming home.

A good friend from German town back in the day, knew a guy in the O.T.O Thahuli lodge in Pa. Who sent me this letter and its contents , it is to graphic to post, but I say this drinking semen to get the essence of life is quite fucked, and killing little kids for blood purity, and gay sex magic, is also wrong. Floyd Webb knew a girl who went to the club and some quite fucked things happened to her.

Floyd Webb knows what went on in the Choronzon Club he had a lady friend that went their. Ask Floyd what happened to her.

This is Reuben Clymers Medical degree from Chicago. He was the head of the A.M.O.R.C in America and a close personal friend of Keehans father. See Keehan was well versed in the secret societies by his father way before he was even an adult.Floyd Webb needs to do more research because it doesn't include his teachings in the arts, see spirtuality and the martial arts go hand in hand. Floyd is missing this part on his faith because it was a big part of his life. Wheather you like it or not. By the way Keehan was a mason .
This is one of Keehan own books a first edition and their are several more A.M.O.R.C. and the occult sciences books . I met with one of the Grand Masters of the O.T.O. in 2007 and this guy knew Keehan very well, this individual is 75 and still kicking in Pa. When asked of Bertrauix he became quite irate and when I told him that Bertrauix was in a movie about Keehan . He said this to me that its like having "Charlie Manson as a poster boy for child care".

In one of Keehans letters he make reference to a lodge in Illinois, I can't find it it doesn't exist anymore their a park were the lodge once stood. I found out later that the lodge was burned down in the 60's by rioters in Chicago.

It doesn't matter if you like me or not the truth is the truth. And Floyd needs to start telling the truth.

We have the truth and we will take what we know as fact, and when Floyd Webb releases the movie we will use our infomation to discredit Floyd's film as bullshit, and we all know what bullshit Keehans friends are telling . They betrayed Keehan and are not telling the truth about the man personally because it will expose them as the asshole betrayers and drug addicts and murders they are.

BARRON SHEPPERD BACKS WINTER HAVEN FLORIDA FIGHTER

First of all Billy lost you because of Jurisdiction in Massachusetts don't worry Barron he's coming for you in Indiana . So hide your wife she'll definitely thinking about Billys return. This is a guy who swears he's not from Winter Haven Fl and doesn't know Radford Davis but he still goes to train people in that small city. This guys father is Deusel Berto a guy who fought in Japan in like a WWF type wrestling. Barron only trains his friends that's it like Ashida Kim . With a 14-5-1- record I guess he needs all the help he can get. AND I'LL BET AGAINST HIM WITH A TRAINER LIKE YOU HOW CAN HE WIN , YOU CAN'T EVEN KEEP YOUR WIFE. AND YOU TOLD ME THAT BARRON. Thats why she lives in Evansville and you live in Winter Haven and work in Gulfport Mississippi. What about all the cheating you told me about and your heart problem.

So your training you friends son , big deal. In the real world a guy like me would take a 150lbs fighter and snap him like a fuckin twig. This guy would be wearing make-up in prison and have a bloodied ass for a pack of cigarettes . So try again Barron.

Barron your so out classed the best you can do is your friends son. Is he doing the fighting for you Barron,lol

Deusel Berto picture is on the bottom of this page http://badassfightwear.com/KGotch.htm

Barron you must make the trip from Gulfport Mississippi to Winter Haven often, considering you told the court you,ve never been their ASSHOLE

Born into a fighting family, Berto was raised to be a MMA star. His father, Dieuseul Berto is a boxing, wrestling and karate expert who competed as a professional mixed martial artist in Japan and now runs a martial arts academy in Florida.

James Berto
Name:
James Edson Berto
NickName:
Little Tiger
Pro Record:
14-5-1
DOB:
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Height:
5' 6"
Weight:
154
Home City:
Winter Haven
Home State:
FL
Home Country:
USA

MY FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FAME

I love this Floyd and his little bitches sit on John Patricio's locked board and bash me and Billy, its so funny none of them are martial artists. Heres some of the topics they discuss. Also Floyd I took my father to this in Janaury. My father loves Oyama tournaments. Which ones have you been to Floyd your black ass is never out of Chicago. Martial artists respect what I'm doing . Trust me I have 1000's of support e-mails . Remember Floyd they all have copyright and trademarks , you, Barron, Radford Davis, Patricio are all fakes and losers that never trained a day in their lives. Your the fakes, the liars and the deceivers. Why do I have 2.8 million hits more than you. Because me and Billy are the real deal.

I have fought all my life in tournaments, were did you hear that from Patricio between crack hits.

See my fifteen minutes are just starting but you don't know that Floyd, Patricio, Barron , Davis. See I've already made Floyd famous in the film festivals as a loser and a thief

Floyd film will never get off the ground , my goal no funding for you.

This is from Floyd Webb on the board,

http://pub40.bravenet.com/forum/3407321802/show/720077

Floyd Webb
Apr 20th, 2008 - 6:06 PM
Re: Creeden proves yet again how much of a low life he is Creeden is aware that his 15 minutes are up. No one really cares what he says. He is desperate and is grasping at old lies that remain lies. He will never man up and give anyone any kind of satisfaction so we should all just continue to not react to anything he says. Easy for me to say definitely. But it has got to be quite sobering to realize if he EVER turns up to any martial arts events he may not receive the kind of reception befitting his megalomania cal attitude. I have been told he has not been to a martial arts event in over 25 years anyway. It is all bluster and bluff. Ignore the guy, please.

This is how I fucked Floyd big time, their a guy named Sgt Borge a really good friend of mine. He s Army Ranger who was in Somalia and was a advisor to the movie Black Hawk Down. He knows and advised this documentary filmmaker Mark Bowden who did the book Black Hawk Down and the movie. When we spoke he said that all the documentaries that he has done he has never used Fair Use. He states that bad blood in a documentary leaves crucial information out of the picture. He states that anyone who uses "Fair Use" shouldn't be in the business. Doing a documentary is about telling the truth. He also sent me a autographed copy of his documentary " Killing Pablo"

Now this is a documentary. Floyd doesn't have the balls to do a straight tell all Dante film thats why he will fail.

Heres Pablo 10 minutes after his death , hes the guy laying down
The beginning of the documentary

HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED

John Keenan and John F creeden Jr. 1974
My father and John 1966

Ok Lord of Chaos I would have posted this earlier, but I was shooting machine guns in Manchester N.H.. See I love this shit because you guys have nothing to bring to the table and I shut you all up time and time again. You guys can cry all you want the proof is here. Also Floyd cries about copyright transfers.

§ 204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership
(a) A transfer of copyright ownership, other than by operation of law, is not valid unless an instrument of conveyance, or a note or memorandum of the transfer, is in writing and signed by the owner of the rights conveyed or such owner's duly authorized agent.

See if Billy doesn't own it than I do and your fucked big time know you going to have to prove I called someones mother in the middle of the night and I can use your blog against you Floyd your fucked.

Billy doesn't need stationary nor a notary to make the sale binding. What is Floyd going to use against me in court, he has no signature nor a signed paper from me and my father.

Thats all Billy needs Floyd so all your bullshit about paper. So were did you get exclusive use from me no signatures not even a piece of paper. Barron and you have nothing when I come for you. So you illegally got stolen goods from Barron, theft I love it.

You guys won't talk about that because your fat boy god Floyd, you don't want to hurt his fragile sensabilities.

http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/

Late Night Calls to 81 year old mothers?Part of the investors decision was triggered by someone making a call to the investors 81 year old mother in the middle of the night telling "your son is dead." We do not know who made the call, we levelled no accusations. But it came after a heated argument between the investor and John Creeden III who told him how long his arms could reach and his associations with the Irish Mafia in Florida. This was deleted from my blog a few days ago. But I am putting it back after seeing John Creeden III announced online I gave someone $7500.00 for images I got off of http://archive.org. He says he is going for a job in law enforcement. Go figure.

See I got you both know so have fun my js-44 form is all filled out, so get ready. Its not fair use it breach of contract and theft. So good luck

THE TRUTH , FLOYD YOU HAVE NO IDEAD WHAT YOUR DOING

Keehan was introduce to poison hand from a friend Adriano Emperado in 1959. The guys name was Choke Yoke Chung who was teaching Chaun fa at the time. So get your fuckin history right. You think that these clowns in Chicago can re-write history. Keehan was in Southern California training with the Hawaiian masters in 1959 while in the Marines.



So before you think you know it all in Chicago, think again. Keehan was introduced to the Martial arts in the Marines, not his childhood. It was a demonstration from Trias on the Marine Corps base in San Diego. Thats caught Keehan fancy it had nothing to do with Chicago.



He had nothing to do with Chicago until 1965 when he went back after being kicked out of the USKA.


It was Russel Brown who introduced Tamura to Keehan
Mas Tamura was teaching Russel Brown and Gregory Jaco and Andy Wilson who were posing as janitors. See back then their was a lot of racism with in the Japanese and Chinese communities back then.





So heres Floyd Webb questioning Joe Dorado own info.

http://johnkeehan.blogspot.com/ From the June 24, 2007

It seems I may have been mistaken in thinking that James Yimm Lee may have
taught Keehan Poison Hand. It was closer to home, in Chicago's Chinatown with
James Lee who was admitted to the Shaolin Temple when he was 6 years old. Lee
also became estranged from John when he took on his Count Dante
personality.

Floyd doesn't know martial arts history at all.


James Lee became estranged when Keehan didn't stop the street taxes against Lee's business. See Keehan had several street gangs. See Giancana original gang the 42's ran the oriental rackets back then. See when Keehan threw in with Giancana over the porno, James Lee didn't agree with that . So get your history straight. This is why no one believes your bullshit.

Also Keehan ran several street gangs in Chicago's Leevee district, who would collect for Keehan that he would kick up to Anthony Accardo and then to Giancana.


So fuck yourself Floyd , your not even close to the truth.

JOE DORADO ANOTHER FAKE INTERNATIONAL BDFS ANOTHER FLOYD WEBB BACKER

This guys poison hand is as weak as Ashida Kim. These guys from the International fake BDFS are not reputable martial artists. Were did Felkoff get his Mastership and Day from a cracker jack box. Their not respected by any respectable martial artist. Floyds film gets weaker and weaker by the day when he involves himself with fakes like kim and Felkoff and Day. Their all from Chicago and their weak, the only one's who are respectable are Ray Cooper and Russel Brown.

The story is getting no play with respectable martial arts people. its because everybody who was alive at the time knows that the people in the film are not telling the truth when it comes to the events in Keehans life. Floyds interpretation of a small weak little black boy who meets an Irish Catholic Karate expert. You really have to be an martial artists to tell this story of how he rose to promince and how Chicago killed him and the betrayal of his friends and business associate's in Chicago.

Joe Dorado your Martial artists is weak, are you sure you don't have a diaper under those silk PJ's. Maybe you and Felkoff and Day can change each others diapers. And all you guys can go with Stoffel and they can go beat up some black people in South Africa. So floyd can affiliate himself with South African's who are racists towards African's. Thats fucked up Floyd.

FLOYD YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT

You just proved your the delusional one. You tell half truths , just like your movie. Half truths by people who got their friend killed and turned their back on him. No wonder why your wife left you. Did the judge question your mental capacity or not, I think YES he did. Billy has show ownership you have only shown what a small twisted little scared boy you really are . Who likes to steal thing's that are not yours. Floyd your loosing all that you hoped for Billy wants it to stop . Now you look bad , like the stubborn little child you are. Whats wrong Floyd mommy didn't show you any love. You now that shows up in your love life later on. Oh that's right your divorced.

Billy did tell me over beers. Because he thinks your such a pussy and a wimp. Floyd you shouldn't talk about illegal drugs with your record, you shouldn't throw stones in glass houses. As far as being an "advisor" you can't handle Billy, let alone me. Oh on Advisors Floyd who was in the courtroom with Billy. Its wasn't John Cole, he is known as "Ray" just "Ray". You don't want to know what Ray does for a living. Floyd he is one of Billy's advisor's. Your dealing with the old timers Floyd not me, he's from Keehans past the past you don't want to know about. Be afraid be
very afraid whoops weres Floyd.

I'll say this hes from Federal Hill, see Floyd people are watching you. Billy got to do this on his own.

Ring Ring in your head your mental status is in question? Yes it was I love fuckin with you your to easy Loser.

SO YOU KNOW POISON HAND BOYS

I've gone over every one's poison hand techniques and thought were are the entrances. See their are 7 , but I've never seen anybody doing them. Look poison hand is great if you can get their to do them.


Can I call my self a poison hand expert, ya I can .I have been in several streets situations. And I don't care who you are you are not going to use 4 poison hand techniques against someone . People just can't take it, an ocular eye slap is enough to dis able someone.

Joe Dorado looks good in red satin and his inside elbow's. But what takes you their in poison hand is off the charging T.

Will someone have the knowledge to do this from Chicago , probably Dwyer could that all. Poison hand was developed to fight in a phone booth " Dante's own word's". Your legs just get you their, but their are entrances with your legs that will work. Only to enhance the hand position's. And that's why the T was so formidable because when your in a bar full of people your not using circular movement's . Its a jam and some one's going down. It works straight on that's all , all fighting forms have severe limitations to them.



In Bill Aguiars you learned Oyama Style karate . You learned to kick and punch first. You were never introduced to poison hand until your Kyu grades. Think about this Billy Sr only promoted 20 black belt's in 35 years . That's no Mcdojo boy's. So few people really learned it as hard as my and Billy III. The training was severely hard and the punishment training was beyond comprehension . But our fighting skill is flawless. I never learned the game like mma I was taught to street fight. I never learned Sai, or Tonfa. I learned the bar glass and the baseball bat the car antenna weapons of opportunity. I only know Jujitsu I never learned Judo. Everything I learned was to completely crush my opponent and win . Its Kill or Be Killed on the street, that's the hard facts and poison hand has saved me. And yes I've got my ass kicked several times, before people embellish on that.


So show me some entrances or shut the fuck up. About knowing "Poison Hand"